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Old 03-27-2011, 07:05 PM
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I am looking for some Load information for the triple deuce. I have been loading for it for several years now. I have recently decided to load 50gr v-max bullets for coyote hunting.
My rifle is a Savage 840, 22in barrel. Old I know, but shoots great.

This is my situation: I am finding some conflicting information for the loads. It seems that my load manual (Lyman 47th) data for the 50gr. with H335 powder is not even close to the information from Hodgdon's website.
My manual is showing a load of: H-335, 23.0gr to 26.8C. 3333fps. 43,400CUP----
Hodgdon's website is showing. H-335, 21.3gr to 23.6, 3120fps. 45,700CUP.
What should I use for data?

I have worked the 50gr v-max loads up to H335, 26.0gr and they seem to be fine as far as pressure and accuracy. Still need to Chrono loads.

I already have a few loads worked up for other bullets for the .222
I load a 52gr BTHP, H335, 24.5gr. Chrono 3260fps. Thats the max load in manual for a 53gr, but shows it should be around 3133fps. Website shows max at 23.0gr, 3006fps. Why am I Faster then whats in manual?

I also load two 55gr. loads (HPBT/FMJ), H335, 25.5, chrono 3323/3295fps. Manual shows max load at 26.3 @3225fps. Again I'm faster and still have .8grs left..

I have seen no signs of excessive pressures, or sticky cases, primers seem to be ok also. Which is another thing that has me confused, if I'm that much over the website max i think I would see something wrong with cases after being fired. I am getting "Hornady Superformance Velocity's (50gr,3345fps)" out of standard load data.

So if anyone has ideas as to why there is such a difference in the load information I would like to hear your comments. Anyone that has a different load manual and would like to share the load data from there I would greatly appreciate it..

I was fine until I read Hodgdon's website info...

Thanks, Kevin
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Old 03-31-2011, 04:05 PM
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Really, no-one has anything to say?
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Old 04-03-2011, 11:45 AM
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I have hornady,sierra&nosler manuals they all have some of the same podwers but with different charge weights. IMO I would stay away from ball/spherical podwers they are temp. sensitive hodgdon extreme podwers are not. hodgdon H4895,BENCHMARK,H322& IMR 8208 XBR are not temp sen.Any of these podwers will perform well in the duce w/ a 40-55grn pill. visit their web sites for data or call them. If you are not gettn a heavy bolt or sticky cases i wouldnt worry about pressure at this point. hope this helps you out.
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:33 AM
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Older manuals were printed before there were so many lawyers and they pushed closer to maxium. If you are getting long case life I wouldn't worry about your loads...but... a hot primer or lot of powder and you could get yourself into a wreck. Your rifle probably has a slightly oversize chamber, over size bore, badly eroded throat, or maybe it's just special! Measure your fired brass. Are you having to trim cases often? Are your primer pockets getting loose? Extractor marks? Are they hard to resize? Just mostly guessing though!
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:38 PM
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Older manuals were printed before there were so many lawyers and they pushed closer to maxium. If you are getting long case life I wouldn't worry about your loads...but... a hot primer or lot of powder and you could get yourself into a wreck. Your rifle probably has a slightly oversize chamber, over size bore, badly eroded throat, or maybe it's just special! Measure your fired brass. Are you having to trim cases often? Are your primer pockets getting loose? Extractor marks? Are they hard to resize? Just mostly guessing though!

Nothing seems to be noticiable. But thinking that I am going to relook at everything you just mentioned. Because i shouldnt be getting the vel. that I am. Also going to start the loads from min. load and work them up again..

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Old 04-12-2011, 02:08 AM
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I had another thought, then another. Your chrony might be off a little giving you higher vel. readings. I don't know how you could check this unless you have access to another one. Are all these loads from the same powder lot? Have you tried a new can of H335 to see if there's any differance?

One thing more, when working up loads in these small cases, take baby steps when increasing the charge weight .25 instead of .5 increases.

Nosler #6 list 24.5 as maximum with their 55 grain bullets and H335 at 3108, with 22.5 as the starting load. No H335 loads listed for the 50/52 grains, they like H322 and list it as the most accurate powder in both their 50/52/55 grain loads.

I've always used IMR 4895 with the 50 and 55 grain bullets, and a light load of BLC2 for 40 grain HP (.3 groups 788 Remington)
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