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Old 07-15-2014, 09:06 PM
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Default Am I expecting too much from my .17 hornet??

Guys I need some input here from you .17 hornet shooters out there.

I have a ruger 77/17 .17 hornet with a Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14 on top and a trigger job. Let me start off by saying it shoots the factory 20 grain shells 1.2-1.6" at 100 yards. To me this isn't great considering my dad and my friend have the same exact gun and there's will shoot 3/4-1" groups with factory shells.

With 20 gr v max and h110 iv been able to get about 1-1.2" groups.

With 25 gr Hornady HP and h4198 iv been able to get .5-.9" groups on average. Iv tried wsr and 205 match primers. Partial and full length sizing. Iv trimmed my cases when needed. I believe I'm up to 15-20 loads that iv tried. Played with different seating depths and powder charges.

I expected 1/2 inch groups CONSISTENTLY with good loads. Am I out of my mind???
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:33 PM
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NOT AT ALL !!!
The boy just got a CZ 17 hornet. Factory loads just out of the box Redfield 4X12.
Easy 1/2 groups off a sled and bench. He hopes with a brake in and load work to get down to one hole.!
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:46 PM
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Cz's are typically great shooters. My CZ .204 outshot my .17 hornet tonight and I was shooting factory ammo in it. Iv burnt through almost a hole box of 25 gr hp in load development already with my hornet! It's getting frustrating. The gun was new when I got it, all iv done is a trigger job.
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:54 PM
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It's not a Bench Rest competition rifle......those groups are just fine for hunting.......unless you are hunting baby fleas and want more accuracy....; )

Just be happy the thing chambers, fires and ejects.....I had a ton of bugs with my 17HH.....

By the way I have the same scope on my M25......but looking to replace it with a Hawke IR 30 Endurance before season starts.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:45 PM
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Yeah I agree it's not that bad for a hunting rifle, just feel there's more potential in the caliber than that. I will say that it functions flawlessly as far as ejecting, feeding, and everything. What kind of groups are you getting?
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Old 07-16-2014, 01:07 AM
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Never measured really.......but everything has been well under an inch on paper at 100. Accuracy wise I have no issues with my rifle with factory or reloads. Functionality of the rifle was an issue and now the worn down shooting mechanics of my bag of bones is where my issues lay...; )

Bottom line it's a hunting round, not one you are taking to Camp Perry for a leg. Is your goal to kill game or the middle of an "X"?....if it's the game the 17HH at under 1" at 100 is more than fine.....if it's the "X" get a 1:7 heavy barrel match AR or a M1A Super Match.....; )

At this point with the 17HH I'm more concerned with the terminal ballistics than accuracy. Hate to be out calling for fox and a yote wanders in...I could care less if I have .01 groups compared to 1.0" groups as long as the yote can be ethically taken...and the same load will not simulate IED blasts on fox....
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:25 AM
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Yeah I agree with you there. That's why iv been loading 25 gr hp's. Figured they should do a little better job on coyotes plus they seem to shoot better. Not sure about fox performance though. Guess we'll see
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Old 07-16-2014, 04:17 PM
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I should also add that my groups are 5 shot groups. A lot of folks seem to like accurate 1680 powder but I haven't been able to find any around me. Some people have got great groups and speed with lil gun, but people also say it can be unsafe in that case.
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:28 PM
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Cci 400 1680, and any woodchuck den bullet will get u at a 1/2 or under. The stock ruger trigger is just shy of awful so hopefully you got a whole new trigger as part of the trigger job.
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:37 PM
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I replaced the sear and spring. World of difference down to 2.5 lb with no creep. Yeah that would be great if I had access to 1680. Haven't seen any woodchuck den bullets either. You must be lucky!
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