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Old 02-03-2019, 10:52 PM
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Default What Cal. ? What Bullet ? Why ?

I feel that the information given here can be beneficial to a lot of people. That's why I'm posting it here.
I have been asked many times, what's the best rifle caliber for killing Fox, Coyote, and Bobcat. ? What's the best bullet ?


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Predators: Fox, Coyote, Bobcat.

Least amount of fur damage.

Range: Up to 200yards.

Range: From 200yds to 600yds.


What would your answer be and why?


Please do not attack someone for their opinion.
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Old 02-04-2019, 10:16 AM
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For coyotes I use a 22-250 spitting 55 grain Sierra SBT pushed by 37.5 grains IMR4064 at ranges out to 300 yards, have not shot father as that is my current comfortable max distance, (off shooting sticks) at being able to do precise shot placement, If I were to get a bobcat at a distance at least 100 yards out I would feel comfortable using the same in hopes it didn't blow a big exit hole. Working up loads for 55 gr FMJ's because less than 100 yards the frangible SBT blows out the off side.
If going out specifically for Fox or Bobcat I'd go with the 22 mag mainly because I believe that shot placement is critical in firearm usage and a 22 mag will put down the largest of considered predators, without blowing out a saucer sized exit hole.
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Old 02-04-2019, 12:01 PM
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Nice. Let me ask you something. Do you feel that you may loose an animal using 55gr. FMJ due to the nature of the round likely to go in and out with a smaller wound channel?

What rounds are you using for your 22 mag ? What's your max comfortable range?
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Old 02-04-2019, 02:08 PM
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...what's the best rifle caliber for killing Fox, Coyote, and Bobcat. ? What's the best bullet ?

Best is a strong, strong word. And I have no idea what the answer to best is. Sometimes I think it's a shotgun and not a rifle at all.

For fur hunting called coyote when a very occasional bobcat might show up and fox are too rare to be concerned with, out to about 300 yards, even 350 if conditions are good and it feels right, I mostly like to use a .17 Predator with a 30 Gold.

Further than that, I don't care. I like calling them in.

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Old 02-04-2019, 03:07 PM
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DAA, you are right. Best is a strong word. My bad. I did not mention shotguns or pistol because more individuals asked about a particular caliber and type of bullet.

The 17 Predator is a killer no doubt. But is it better then a 22mag. 17HMR, 204,
22-250,243. ?

Why do you prefer the 30 gold over a 25gr.?
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Old 02-04-2019, 04:12 PM
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Why do you prefer the 30 gold over a 25gr.?
Penetration, energy, terminal performance.

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Old 02-04-2019, 04:35 PM
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Best is a strong, strong word. And I have no idea what the answer to best is. Sometimes I think it's a shotgun and not a rifle at all.

For fur hunting called coyote when a very occasional bobcat might show up and fox are too rare to be concerned with, out to about 300 yards, even 350 if conditions are good and it feels right, I mostly like to use a .17 Predator with a 30 Gold.
Further than that, I don't care. I like calling them in.

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Not going to get baited into one of these threads again......LOL

DAA...30 Gold WCD from Todd Kindler?....
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Yup. Kindler's.

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Old 02-04-2019, 06:33 PM
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Yup. Kindler's.

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He was always out of stock on the 30s.....I loaded the 23's they were great on groundhogs. Great guy. I have both the 17 and 20 cal books. Neat cartridges/loads.....had a couple good conversations with him when I was trying to make the 17 Hornet a "do all" fox/yote rifle. He didn't call me crazy but hinted....lol.....he talked about the 30 but was always out of stock. last time I spoke to him was a few years back when I ordered his table top press stand. I asked about the 30's and he said he was selling all his equipment and would no longer make bullets. So, I never got to try out the 30....bummed.

I heard someone in Texas bought his equipment and is producing the WCD Golds.....
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:28 PM
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Penetration, energy, terminal performance.

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I agree. I would also say that a bullet that violently expands and expends all its energy inside the animal has more of a terminal effect then one that pass thru. When a bullet passes thru the animal energy is lost as well as the shock.
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